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By Isabella Kooch <\/h1>\n

While browsing Spotify for some new music, specifically Indie pop, I came across Nick Wagen<\/strong>\u2019s (He\/Him) 2020 song, \u201cHead High.\u201d His tune is relatable, and his lyricism captures the exact situations that late teens and early twenty-year-olds face: Love, heartbreak, and friendship. Its lovely guitar melody and sappy lyrics were exactly what I wanted to add to my new discoveries playlist, the epitome of Indie Pop. But what is Indie Pop? And where does it begin? Although the origin of this genre was heavily lo-fi based, it has evolved to have other elements of sound. British post-punk, for instance, is influential to the sound created for rock and pop music.<\/p>\n

After taking in more of Wagen\u2019s music, I quickly reached out to learn more about his experience as an up-and-coming artist on the Indie scene. With a small discography of 7 singles and 1 EP, which just recently celebrated its first anniversary on September 17th, the 22-year-old from Chicago is making a name for himself. Initially producing music under a band created by Wagen and a friend, the duo teamed up and made their hit single \u201cConfusion\u201d in 2018, which was one of the most prominent years for Indie-pop releases. The single currently boasts roughly 3 Million streams, but \u201cMine,\u201d Wagen\u2019s recent single, has been his favorite project thus far.<\/p>\n

In April, Wagen released his single, \u201cSomeone, Someone Real,\u201d with Eliza, musically known as Cr\u00eape Girl, creating one of Wagen\u2019s most streamed songs yet and one of his first collaboration projects. Wagen has been able to begin his adventure of playing live shows, releasing new singles consistently, and is now working with Audiotree to create live sessions on different music platforms. <\/p>\n

Q: What made you want to start making music?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cIn my high school, a lot of kids were into hip-hop and making beats. SoundCloud rap was huge then, so I was intrigued by it\u2026 I did some SoundCloud rap back in my day too, which was terrible! I have this theory that a lot of Indie pop artists start out in the SoundCloud rap beat-making era. It\u2019s crazy how there\u2019s a correlation there.\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: What kind of music do you feel like you make? Do you think it fits under a specific genre?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cI get this question a lot from family members, and my general answer is usually just Indie Pop. You could say Alternative or Bedroom Pop. Still, it\u2019s an all-encompassing term, which I like because it gives me the freedom to explore different genres.
Q: That\u2019s something I\u2019ve been thinking about; when did this Bedroom and Indie pop genre establish? Because if you really think about it, it can\u2019t be more than 7 years old.<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cNo, definitely not. I think it started out when there was that whole <\/strong>Mac DeMarco<\/strong><\/span><\/a> uprising and then Clairo<\/strong><\/span><\/a>. All those artists that were popular from 2016 to 2019.\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: When did you start producing music?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cI started out producing music in High School, but I transitioned into indie-pop around \u201818 or \u201819. I released my first song under Nick Wagen in 2019. I had no clue what I was doing. I was just throwing shit out, which was more fun at the time! The first song is my most popular now, which is ironic, because I never thought it would get anywhere near the number of streams that it has now.\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: So you didn\u2019t have confidence in that song?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cI guess I did at the time. I made it with my friend, and it was originally under a band called SuperLike. It got a somewhat good reaction at first because we had been promoting it on Instagram Ads. But my mentality was like, \u201cOh, it\u2019s not going to, like, \u2018blow up,\u2019\u201d so I never thought it would get millions of streams. So I guess I just didn\u2019t expect it.\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: When you were in the band SuperLike, did you guys find your Indie-esque sound collectively?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cIt was my friend Joe and I… We started hanging out this one summer and decided to just start making music to be put out. After that, our schedules didn\u2019t align well enough to continue making music together… I started doing stuff on my own, and this is when \u201cConfusion\u201d started to get a little more popular… So I asked Joe if I could transition it (Confusion) to my own artist project because it still fits in the sound I\u2019m making.\u201d <\/p>\n

Q: For your single \u201cMine,\u201d is there a specific experience that led to your wanting to write this song? <\/strong><\/p>\n

A:<\/strong> \u201cAll my songs are kind of all about relationships. I was promoting \u201cMine\u201d on Tik Tok saying that this is a very \u2018simpy\u2019 song about my current girlfriend, who I\u2019ve been dating for a while now\u2026 she had broken up with me for a period of time, and I had written this song, which I sent to her. And then we ended up getting back together. So \u201cMine\u201d kind of emphasizes the fact that I\u2019m a simp… I didn\u2019t think it was going to work, but I guess it worked for her!\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: Was your song \u201cSomeone, Someone Real\u201d with Cr\u00eape Girl your first collaboration song?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cYeah! I\u2019ve collaborated with friends in the past, like with my first bandmate, but this was my first collaboration to put out. I wanted the song to really make sense. I didn\u2019t want to just collab with someone for clout; it needed to be something I really wanted to put out. And so I had met Eliza (Cr\u00eape Girl<\/span><\/a>) through mutual friends who mixed our stuff in Tennessee\u2026 and it just kinda came about!\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: And for performances, how has that gone? <\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>\u201cI had the opportunity to open for Inner Wave<\/strong><\/span><\/a>! It was cool; I was supposed to do three shows with them, but my bassist got COVID, so we couldn\u2019t perform the other two. I also got to open up for Mikey Darling<\/strong><\/span><\/a>. They are the two sweetest dudes ever, and after that show, I realized that I want to be doing this all the time.\u201d <\/p>\n

Q: How would you describe your live sound?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>My live sound is a lot different than the studio recordings. We do everything live with no backing tracks\u2026 it really just gives it a different feeling which is fun for people who know the studio versions. We tend to amp up the energy of my songs live to make the shows more upbeat, which is something I love so much. I love performing and having the crowd match your energy and really be into it. I like to keep the tone light-hearted for the live show and really have it feel like we\u2019re just four guys who love playing music and are sharing that with the crowd, and I just hope everyone is having a decent time.<\/p>\n

Q: So what\u2019s next up for Nick Wagen? Can you tell me a bit about your Audiotree live session that\u2019s in the works? <\/strong><\/p>\n

A:<\/strong> Audiotree live is something me and my guitarist and lifelong best friend Bailey Barton<\/strong> have always wanted to do\u2026 we\u2019re big fans of some of their previous sessions with bands like <\/strong>Peach Pit<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, Foxing<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, Japanese Breakfast<\/strong><\/span><\/a>\u2026 So when we started playing shows in the Chicago area we decided to reach out to Audiotree and see if we could set up a session. My band consists of me on vocals and guitar, Bailey on guitar, Alex Cook<\/strong> on bass, and Tim Bell<\/strong> on drums. We’ve been playing together for a little over a year now and it has been such a fun experience. <\/p>\n

Nick Wagen on Spotify<\/span><\/a> | Instagram<\/span><\/a> | Tik Tok<\/span><\/a> <\/p>\n

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