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By Sarah Fournell<\/h1>\n

Chappell Roan (n\u00e8e Kayleigh Amstutz) is defining what it means to be an indie pop star.  From breaking into the scene with \u201cPink Pony Club\u201d to opening up for Olivia Rodrigo and selling out headline shows, Roan has blazed a path to stardom on her own. <\/p>\n

Roan\u2019s music has the innate ability to make you feel like you\u2019re at a sleepover\u2014it\u2019s teeming with vulnerability and a twang of girlish fun. Our conversation felt just like a late night slumber party confessional, equipped with brutally honest opinions and well-informed fashion advice. We swapped our favorite fall drinks \u2014Roan\u2019s is apple cider\u2014 and discussed our favorite LA dives. Throughout the interview, Roan toyed with an orange peel and twirled her fingers through her freshly dyed red hair. Before we dove into our therapeutic conversation about what it means to be truly \u201cindie\u201d and Roan paused to text a friend about the box of donuts she had forgotten in their car. Once she located the dozen, we were ready to move on to our discussion. <\/p>\n

What is the most meaningful thing in your life right now?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The most meaningful thing, or things, are when I have nights off with my friends. When I’m not doing work stuff, because even when I’m hanging with my friends, I’m all like, \u2018Hey, guys, you want to come over and help me bedazzle? Like, we’ll have a craft night!\u2019 But it’s actually like, work for me. So I really cherish that.<\/p>\n

What was the process of choosing your stage name?<\/strong><\/p>\n

 I named it after my grandfather, Dennis Chappell, and his favorite song was called the \u201cStrawberry Roan,\u201d which is an old Western song, about a horse that was strawberry colored. It was originally just supposed to be Chappell, but someone had already taken it. And the last name took me a year to find. I spent every day searching.<\/p>\n

I recently went line dancing and they played Pink Pony Club and the girlies in the bar went CRAZY! Would you ever choreograph a line dance to one of your songs? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Oh my god, shut up. I would not choreograph a line dance. I would have someone else choreograph it, and then I would dance to it. I cannot dance, genuinely, it’s so stressful to me to think about dancing.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve spoken about your inspirations in music, but who are your biggest inspirations in your visual art, or the way you present yourself and your style?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I really like Bratz and Hannah Montana vibes. A lot of my aesthetic is what I would have really loved when I was little. Like right now, I\u2019m not dressed as Chappell, I\u2019m literally in jean shorts. But my projects are kind of an homage, doing my inner child justice, like giving her the freedom that she never got to be. So I think that’s why my style is so specific. But I would say I\u2019m influenced by a lot of pop culture, like Britney, and, like the other night, I just watched Aquamarine<\/em>.<\/p>\n

The term \u201cindie\u201d used to describe independent musicians but is now used to encompass the broad genre of \u201cindie music.\u201d You\u2019ve talked before about really doing it all on your own, from writing to promoting to hand making costumes. How would you describe being truly indie?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I mean, it\u2019s just like me and my friends pulling all this off. It’s a lot of people working for free. I don’t have a label funding all of this. It looks like me thrifting everything I have, learning how to do my own hair, learning how to do my makeup, watching a lot of Youtube tutorials on how to do, \u2018okay I can\u2019t afford the nails I want, so I\u2019m going to learn to do my nails,\u2019 I\u2019m going to learn to sew. Being an independent artist means, like, you have limitations. But within those limitations can come magic. We made this music video for my song \u201cMy Kink is Karma,\u201d and I’ve never been more proud of something, because, like, me and my friends made that. Everyone busted their ass just because they wanted to do a good job. And that\u2019s what indepence looks like\u2026 It feels very empowering to be independent. It is fulfilling, but it is draining, physically and fiscally.<\/p>\n

And it really pays off.<\/strong><\/p>\n

It pays off! It does, it really does. It put me in a league of like, \u2018Oh, f*ck, she can like pull this sh*t off independently<\/em>?\u2019<\/p>\n

That video and several of your music videos feature you performing, and it\u2019s usually to represent a more authentic, confident version of yourself, which you talked about with your outfits. But what is your favorite part of the performance aspect?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I love dressing up. I love making the spectacle. The spectacle of it all is so fun.  That’s probably it. My favorite part of the performance is the drama, literally just dressing up  and acting crazy. And I love seeing how people dress up at my shows, that’s why I make them themed. Because I love that!<\/p>\n

What was the first concert you went to?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers. Honestly, Miley is my favorite. I just love her<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Who\u2019s your dream collaboration?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I love Caroline Polacheck. I mean I would love to collab with her, but us on a song together, I don’t know if that would make sense. But I would love for her to write or produce a song for me. But to sing as a duet? Oh my god, I don\u2019t know dude. Honestly, it would be awesome if Harry Styles and I did a song together. I hope Olivia [Rodrigo] and I could do a song together. I think that would be cute. Do some type of duet.<\/p>\n

What was opening up for her [Olivia Rodrigo] like? I was just curious to know how the audience, which was mostly kids, reacted to some of your songs? <\/strong><\/p>\n

They f*cking went hard. They didn\u2019t know what was happening, but they loved it. I was talking to Olivia and I was worried, I was like, \u2018Dude, are you sure?\u2019 But she was like \u2018It\u2019s fine! You\u2019re going to be fine, it\u2019s funny.\u2019 And it was! It was fine! People really liked \u201cFemininomenon.\u201d It was just really fun. It was a big crowd, like nine thousand people. So it was really fun. I would do it again if she wanted to.<\/p>\n

How has it been working with Dan Nigro?<\/strong><\/p>\n

He\u2019s great. We just worked together yesterday and the day before. [I\u2019m] working on finishing up an album, and  I have a new song coming out next Friday. We\u2019re going to be working on making a live version of that. There\u2019s a lot of sh*t going on. I love working with Dan, I love him dearly.<\/p>\n

I have a very important question about your new song, \u201cCasual.\u201d Are you drinking a Baja Blast on the cover art?<\/strong><\/p>\n

YES! We had to photoshop the Taco Bell logo out, obviously. But yes, it\u2019s my favorite drink.<\/p>\n

Was there a specific incident or relationship that inspired \u201cCasual?\u201d Or was it more of like an amalgamation of experiences that you’ve had, or that friends have had.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Some of it was definitely fluffed, I guess. Like the first few lines of the chorus never happened\u2013I never met their mom, you know, in Long Beach, or\u2026 never ate me out in a car, you know, but we made out in a car. The whole song came from, like, I heard from their friend that they were saying it was casual, when I didn\u2019t think it was. I did not think it was, but apparently it was so. And to me I was like, how could this be? How could this be casual? It was inspired by one relationship, but there were multiple relationships I pulled from to complete the story.<\/p>\n

You’re incredibly detailed in your songwriting in the way that makes your private experiences feel universally relatable. What are some of your favorite extremely specific lines from \u201cCasual\u201d? <\/strong><\/p>\n

I love the line from the bridge, \u201cIt\u2019s hard when my favorite bra lives in your dresser\/ It’s hard being casual when I’m on the phone talking down your sister.\u201d It\u2019s very interesting because like I always somehow remain close friends with my ex’s siblings. Like I would not be talking at all with my ex, but then I would be on the phone with their sister, and they\u2019d be crying talking to me. That is interesting. Also, the final line of the song is \u201cI f*cked you in the bathroom when we went to dinner, with your parents at the table, and you wonder why I\u2019m bitter.\u201d Like I\u2019m meeting your parents! And you wonder why I\u2019m pissed off that you\u2019re saying it\u2019s casual! I used to be really bad about dissociating and going into this dream world of what I thought people were, and they just weren’t. I would have these crazy expectations of them and maybe that’s why they were like, \u2018It’s casual, like, what are you talking about?\u2019 But in my head, like I had made up this entire story, that didn’t exist. It\u2019s a sad song, it\u2019s revealing of my delusions.<\/p>\n

Since that one has a slower, sadder vibe, and you\u2019ve talked about recording music, are those new songs going to be in the same vein of really diving into your feelings, or will you be going more into the excited pop club type songs like Femininomenon?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I always love both. To be honest, I\u2019m better at writing ballads. I think everyone is better at writing songs about their feelings, it’s way easier. In the winter time and fall time, I always get seasonally weird. The first night that it felt like fall, my body was like, \u2018Okay, it\u2019s time to be sad now.\u2019 I can\u2019t write pop songs right now. So that\u2019s why \u201cCasual\u201d feels like a fall song. It feels kinda broody and pouty and moody. And the next one is just going to be a straight up ballad, in January, maybe February. The album is very much pop, but it\u2019s going to be both. I want to be a pop artist.<\/p>\n

What is your least favorite trend in today\u2019s music?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I do think it\u2019s a little weird \u2013 I don\u2019t give a f*ck really\u2013 but I  know punk people do\u2026 well maybe they don\u2019t, because they\u2019re punk, so they don\u2019t give a f*ck about anything! But I do think it\u2019s interesting to see this chic, clean, punk, that\u2019s very packaged. It\u2019s weird that it\u2019s a thing right now, because punk in the \u201880s and early 2000s, like, they would not f*ck with it. I think sadboy pop is the most annoying sh*t I\u2019ve ever heard in my life. Like sorry, this sounds mean\u2026 I support every art!<\/p>\n

I asked one of my friends if he had any questions for you so I\u2019m just going to read to you what he sent me: \u201cOmg, does she have a dog? I bet she would have a very long dog. Greyhound perchance.\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n

So, I don\u2019t have a dog, but do you want to see my pet? I have a Guinea pig, she\u2019s very cute and very fat. Her name is GoGo. I don\u2019t have a dog\u2013 I\u2019m kind of scared of dogs, to be honest. I got bit by one when I was eighteen. I was bit by \u2013this sounds so dramatic\u2013 a wolf. It was in LA, which makes sense. <\/p>\n

What are you going to be for Halloween?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Everyone keeps asking me that, and originally, I wanted to be Britney with the snake at the VMA\u2019s, but I\u2019m so deep into tour outfit prep, that I don’t know. I have a lot of different options. Like I might just give up and be, like, a f*cking cat.<\/p>\n

Chappell Roan\u2019s new single \u201cCasual\u201d comes out at midnight tonight, and can be found on all streaming platforms.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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